Hi there. This time it is accompanied by a very strong vibration through the drive train. You don’t need much force on the spanner, I would assume the torque you need is around 15-20 Nm. The knocking isn’t present finally. Home trainer Elite Suito [test e recensione] bikevisor 03/07/2020 2837 1. I did more testing, finally getting frustrated and uninstalled, then reinstalled Zwift. Posts on the Zwift Riders FB group are exhausting in the back and forth that is common. Yes, a Campy freehub body would be required and is available from Elite, but there’s no need to do that as all 11-speed drive train cassettes have the same cog spacing. The main difference is honestly more around the power and road feel, which is better on the CORE. Someday…someday. Want my wife to be able to use zwift, but she doesn’t have a PM. As for the maximum power, the Suito offers up to 1,900 Watts, which should also be more than enough for the majority of people. The cassette is a Shimano R7000 105 11-speed cassette. Noticeably less vibration with high flywheel speeds. It doesn’t connect via Bluetooth Smart unfortunately, but does ANT+ – so no good for your smartphone, but will work for your computer. In any case, I was looking to see how it reacted in two core apps: Zwift and TrainerRoad (Bluetooth Smart on Apple TV and iPad). Same is with my WAHOO ELEMNT BOLT. Works fine, without noise or vibration. Seems to me Wahoo and Elite have less issues the Tacx after spending a ton of time on various groups on FB and reading comments on Reddit, here, message boards, etc. Returned mine today under warranty, they said it takes about 4 weeks to get it back from elite. Nou fiets ik buiten altijd vlak omdat er geen heuvels in leefomgeving zijn dus kan ik het ook niet goed inschatten. I think this might be the issue. And being awesome is what it’s all about! If it makes no difference I would ask for this mapping. However, the ERG response (how fast you are locked onto the new power target) will likely be SLOWER when using PML than when using the Suito internal power meter, as there is an extra feedback loop to match the power levels. The Suito has a very industrial, angular design. Seems like Elite still has issues getting the Suito stable. Also, the weight of the KICKR flywheel has some merit. Finally, different trainers have different flywheels and i assume that those differences will be more evident on some machines. Bluetooth Smart Speed/Cadence Profile: This broadcasts your speed and cadence as a standard BLE combo Speed/Cadence sensor You feel it right away, it runs too tight. The alu bike has shorter cranks that put less stress on my knees, so I prefer to do HIIT with that bike. Looking good. Elite Needs to learn, not sending trainers with poor quality to their costumers. Very interested… just one quick question: how can the cassette in the trainer be a simple plug-in for any bike? My Ultegra also works fine, especially when using the small chainring and central part of the sprocket. Trainer Difficulty is a funny subject on it’s own, and often misunderstood. My advice is to tighten it with the bike off the trainer. Most notable of those options is what Elite calls Power Meter Link (PML). I hadn’t calibrated the trainer since the original issues and decided to do so before Stage 2 of TdZ (after warming up for 10 minutes). It really just comes down to getting used to how ERG works and learning to let it do what it is supposed to do. Is there any label on the box / on the trainer? I'm one of the ones that do. The bike I am using is a 1X setup with a wide range cassette. Maybe some short E-Mail to Elite from your side helps. I just finished week 3 with a Trainer Road program and now I have to put it on hold until I get the new unit. The new unit is supposedly the latest hardware version which supposedly should not have any problems but has a very similar knocking sound, just worse. I road feel fine and find it very quiet – although limited experience of the high end benchmarks. Thank you. Since then, I am so glad to get the same figures on my watch/pedal that I have on my trainer/cellphone. One guy reports that he gets decent values after 60min of riding. Apparently taking a lesson from Wahoo’s grand fiasco last year. Regarding power inconsistency: you can enable Power Meter Link in the Elite software. Calibration offset is waaay higher than the sticker indicates. Aga. There’s two ways to look at this. Said differently: Peak numbers in this competition don’t matter. I live in Texas and ride in my garage. But it doesn’t work. Thank you to all who have commented. I bought a Suito two weeks ago. There are no instructions for example, how to pair it, that they have apps, what the apps actually do, how to use it with a Garmin, for example, and a whole host of other issues.”. And of course, my complete Winter 2019-2020 Trainer Recommendations Guide as well. ah, sorry, had overlooked that link…to be honest, in my experience if you want consistent data the only reliable way is to use the same bike (or PM) for everything unfortunately. It’s nice when it works but in my experience most of the time it doesn’t. Plus, Elite gives you a one-month free trial to Zwift in the box. The issue in my case was that the nut holding the whole flywheel on the trainer and the cassette and axle was getting loose. Then, I come here and write about my adventures. By that I mean that when I drop significantly in power during the session and change to an easier gear it doesn’t seem to let loose when spinning like it used to. Suito ist der erste Direct-Drive Heimtrainer von Elite, der beim Auspacken bereits komplett montiert ist und über eine vorinstallierte Shimano® 105 (oder gleichwertig) Ritzel-Kassette von mit 11 Geschwindigkeiten verfügt. I have a Garmin 920XT Got all that? In the UK/EU/Australia/New Zealand? The end result may depend also on other factors, so it might work for me and not for someone else. I also need the unit to be reliable. I have a Ultegra 11sp 11-28, I know I am ok there with casette set from the Elite. Many thanks in advance. Now it’s seems more likely risky than good for sure. Elite Suito: de ‘woonkamer’test. Wenn ich vor der Wahl zwischen einem alten Turbotrainer mit einem Magnetwiderstand und einem … Hope this will be useful for someone. I assume this phenomenon is coming from the flywheel wobble. A shop is offering me the BF price for the Suito and I found another shop that may be selling the Core for under what Wahoos been allowing. Elite set out this summer/fall to create a Direto redux – at least from a popularity and sales standpoint. all that being said you can make a connection by using a PC with an ant+ stick and bluetooth back through to your appleTV, but to me this seemed like way too much work for sub-par results. It involves three steps: 1) Take plastic bag off cassette Has anyone else had these issues? However today, the noise came back every single time I started pedalling. This desk is both a knock-off of the original KICKR Desk, but yet also better than it. The reviews generally take a lot of hours to put together, so it’s a fair bit of work (and labor of love). No knocking noise. Wanna save some cash and support the site? I cover all the units to buy (and avoid) for the 2020-2021 indoor training season. Count me in on the Wahoo issues, since Nov 4th I am on my 3rd unit….not bad for a problem that was supposably solved last year? Do these issues exist with new stock? Here´s the the training: ´ Was the wahoo core noticeably quieter Had my Suito for a week, revision hardware 3. It arrived in Nevada December 23rd. So I don’t use it. Using this trainer with TrainerRoad. Im direkten Vergleich mit dem deutlich teureren Elite Direto verfügt er über eine geringere Schwungmasse von 3,5 kg. Powerlink is not a option for me, as I use an old bike on the trainer and I dont want to swap cranks everytime. Reading this versus yours and GP lama’s review of the Zumo I’m hoping I’m not going to regret it and have to send it back with the elves. I had a question I was hoping the community could help me understand if I am experiencing a bug of some sort or if this is behavior when you use it this way. Daar zeiden ze dat het per persoon verschilt maar dat is onzin natuurlijk. So I can use either the small ring or large ring and make it work. That gets you an ad-free DCR, access to the DCR Quarantine Corner video series packed with behind the scenes tidbits...and it also makes you awesome. I’m trying to get HR data embedded in my workouts with the Suito; I have Garmin Forerunner 935 and, since it has only wrist HRM, I have then tried to use at the same time an old Suunto HR belt (from Sunto Quest, which I believe run on ANT) but I have yet to figure out how to get the belt data read and embedded in Suito my workouts. As for the vibrations, my unit vibrates as well, finetuning indexing helped a bit, I think…. Im considering sending it back to the shop. They say it was only present in the first production batches and thus any trainers made since September shouldn’t have this issue. So sprinting may still be an issue for you. CT directed me to their person who handles Elite, Todson. Powerful, solid, and quiet, Suito offers an easy, realistic, and accurate indoor bike training experience. Any suggestions? I used the two supplied spacers to fit the cassette to the freehub, without them the cassette doesn’t tighten, just the smallest cog. I recently bought a Suito from them and got a S/N starting with SUB which judging by this comment thread might be causing all my problems. Cadence monitor keeps me at a consistent reading (within my normal variation), but the Suito sees frequent drops of 10-20 RPMs and sometimes even more. The trainer works fine, but the spindown value seems to drift up gradually since I got it. Has anyone else had a similar issue (I’m in the UK). By entering your details, you are agreeing to BikeRadar terms and conditions and privacy policy. Thanks for your help! hetzelfde toch ? Including an 11 speed cassette is no use to those of us still on 10 speed setups. Is there a fix for the ticking noise or does one have to live with it? I’ve had my Suito for 4 months now, zwifting every day with no problem. After warming up for 12min at a decent intensity (>200W). And I can’t find the recommendation of DC to change the 11-speed for an 8-speed. I remember this being an issue for some people. But at the end of the day, you might just be wondering “What does Ray use when not testing new products?”. There are no instructions for example, how to pair it, that they have apps, what the apps actually do, how to use it with a Garmin, for example, and a whole host of other issues. The Suito comes with a riser block for your front wheel. Garmin etc. Yes, you can pull it out of the box and start pedaling but that’s it. What would be required to change over? . Here's the thing, some people like front wheel blocks, some don't. Jan, They are willing to helpz. The small ring up front set up almost seems to “loose” so to speak and makes it difficult to maintain proper cadence (at least 85 recommended) and have the target power. Why haven’t you yet released a review for XYZ product you mentioned months ago? the Kickr Core is an older model – released 2018 and has the name of a quiet 2017 model. I have no prior experience with other direct drive trainers. – do a 10 minutes training and check if you have disconnections during the training (you should see the data freeze) I knew there was a photo I took this afternoon I meant to include…. I wouldn’t expect wobble by poor installation, unless somehow your bike skewer isn’t straight (plausible, but also unlikely – but it’s worth a quick check – it happens once or twice a year for me). I’m happy to report, 2 months after getting my Suito trainer replaced by Elite it’s still working A-OK! Would that happen to be from Boerkop Cykler? Apparently one of the few that works correctly was reviewed here. When it is in spindown phase I hear, sometimes, a gentle knocking sound(? TL;DR: Having issues with knocking sounds on a 2020 unit (hw revision 006). However, after that I started having issues (the resistance disappears during workout in Garmin, Zwift pairs with the trainer but does not read neither speed nor power (no resistance). I've been using it, and a similiar European version lately with great success (exact EU variant I use is automatically linked at left).

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